Meeting organized and chaired (in the absence of an official committee chairman) by John MacRae of the Winthrop fleet. Others in attendence:
Jesse Falsone (Annapolis)
Steve Braverman (Winthrop)
Dan Ronan (Larchmont)
Fran Charles (Scituate)
John Pratt (Winthrop)
Don Lovelace (Indian Harbor)
Pedro Lorson (Manhasset)
Six agenda items were listed by MacRae, with input from Falsone and others in the weeks prior to the meeting:
The response from all at the meeting was positive regarding this effort, with Annapolis, Winthrop, Manhasset and Larchmont reporting strong participation and few questions/problems. Winthrop representatives noted the time saved in measurement during the regatta, and the good data collected. Ronan suggested the use of more standardized jigs/profiles for consistent measurements in all fleets; Braverman and Pratt (ad others) agreed, with offers of Winthrop's jigs used in 1998 for future events. Ronan also suggested that trust and consistency would be needed to make this effort successful going forward, which also drew agreement.
Meeting attendants reported some success in conducting these measurements, though comments also were offered regarding the cumbersome jigs and the confusion surrounding the exact procedures for conducting the measurement (ie: mast raked forward or aft, etc.). Discussion began on Falsone's proposal to clarify/simplify the process going forward. At this point, Ronan offered a new proposal: do away with the measurement altogether. In its place would be a new rule requiring that all hull corrector weights be placed at/near the thwart (plus or minus 6" was a suggested tolerance). Participants supported the idea and moved to take a measurement sample of some boats at the event to determine the best central location for corrector weights.
Carbon blades: after proposed by Falsone as a possible enhanced construction method, Pratt voiced opposition, noting potential problems such as brittleness and the amount of carbon needed to provide appropriate strength and stiffness. Questions about cost also were raised. With few voices in support of this method, the topic was dropped.
Deck mold: Falsone reported that the current deck mold, being used by Guck but owned by Vanguard, is in bad shape and in need of repair or upgrade/replacement. The observation was made by several in attendence that since Vanguard owned the mold, they should pay to fix it. It was further suggested that Guck should prepare a proposal for a new mold with cost estimates, so it could be forwarded on to Vanguard for consideration.
Hull construction methods: much discussion ensued regarding the Guck boats produced during the year (the first year of production; three boats in attendance at the nationals), and the "vacuum-bagging" method of construction. It was generally observed that, while legal under current IC regulations, the bare hulls produced by Guck seemed to be much lighter than older boats, with some Guck's requiring around 40 lbs of corrector weights to be at national weight. Questions were also raised about the relatively high costs of the Guck boats and whether this was due to the construction method. Falsone (who identified himself as the class liaison to Guck) noted that Guck stood by their construction methods and felt that they were best for hull durability and stiffness over the long term. Nonetheless, several attendants suggested and agreed that the class should consider mandating a bare hull weight in order to make newer boats more consistent with many older boats still sailing. Uniform skin thickness was also mentioned as a positive requirement, though there was some discussion/confusion about whether this already was being done by builders. A target bare hull weight of 175 lbs (with a 5 lbs tolerence) was suggested by Pratt, who offered examples of hull weights of boats he knew of (including his own) as support for his suggested target. The group generally agreed that 175 lbs was a reasonable bare hull weight worthy of adoption by the class.
After the meeting adjurned, four boats were measured for this purpose: a Guck (Falsone), a Vanguard (Bowers), a Menkhart (MacRae) and an O-Day (Mendez charter). With the exception of the O-Day at 5'7.5", the center of the thwart on each boat was exactly 5'7" from the "T-1" position often used for other measurements.
Respectfully submitted,
John MacRae, Meeting Chair
Winthrop Frostbite Commodore (1998-99)